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B0rked RSS feed?


I've noticed that in my RSS software, I can no longer click on posts to take me to the relevant thread on the forum.

Looking at the RSS feed itself, I think that's where the problem lies. You'll notice none of the posts listed on that page is clickable - which is quite an important feature of such a feed. The link for each post takes the form of (using the latest as an example):

//forum.bookkeepers.network/index.spark?aBID=106474&p=3&topicID=63752572

i.e. they lack a protocol - that example should say: http://forum.bookkeepers.network/index.spark?aBID=106474&p=3&topicID=63752572

The result is that my RSS reader misunderstands it, and treats it as a local (file:) link.

Looking at the posts still in my feed, the change appears to have happened on 10th July.



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Hi Vince
When I click on your 'RSS feed itself' link I can then also click on each BKN heading and it brings me back to the BKN site and direct to that particular post, ie the links are clickable. Is that the part that is not happening on your PC?

Its all gobbledegook to me as you know!!

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Yes...

I glanced at the recent posts on my phone, saw your reply, so I tapped on the link there - and it came up with the correct links, as it does for you.

Back on my PC now, and the posts that have appeared since mine are stil not clickable in my RSS reader, and looking at the RSS feed itself, it still shows them without the http: and therefore unclickable.

Which is very, very odd.

And I've just copied and pasted the address bar from the open RSS feed page into a different web browser - and the links there are all correct.

So on the face of it, the problem isn't with the forum, it's something at my end - but I'm baffled as to what? The RSS reader isn't exhibiting this problem for any other feed, and it's affecting both that and the browser I normally use. Colour me baffled.

Edit: I forgot about Thunderbird's ability to read RSS feeds. That also gives me forum posts that can't be clicked on - so it's actually affecting three different programs.

Bah!



-- Edited by VinceH on Tuesday 18th of July 2017 05:45:11 PM

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I've just done a test with a random rss reader (amphetadesk 0.93.1) and it's working fine for me Vince, but as you know I'm on Windows. If I hover over the links it doesn't give me the http bit but the links are still clickable and opem up the thread. Although the link is clickable in Thunderbird, it doesn't open up the thread.



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I'll (obviously) see what happens on Windows when I set up at a client later. Given that it's affecting three different programs on this Linux box (my reader, Firefox, and Thunderbird), but one other program remains unaffected (Chrome*) I'm not sure that the platform itself is the issue - that said, you and Joanne both don't see the issue on Windows, and I didn't when I checked on Android. Odd.

I don't run an RSS reader on Windows as well as Linux, because I'd end up seeing the RSS feed contents twice for most feeds I read. (It would be less of a problem for this site, though, because the RSS feed contains so few posts - I'd probably see stuff I'd otherwise miss.)

What I do instead is glance at the recent posts (or equivalent on other sites) occasionally when I have a few spare minutes - but that's a bit hit and miss (lots of sites I like to read, whether or not I decide to post anything to any of them, whether I want to spend those spare few minutes at or away from the computer, and so on.)

That said... while drifting off to sleep I pondered whether or not I can:

(a) Find an RSS reader that is available for both Windows and Linux.
(b) And whether that reader will allow me to configure where it stores its data.

There will be readers-a-plenty available for both platforms, so (a) won't be a problem (RSSOwl springs immediately to mind, for example) - but (b) will be more interesting. If I can find one that allows that, then I can move the program's raw data - the feeds it's downloaded and all its associated data, such as what has/hasn't been read - into pCloud. That way the feeds should in theory be synchronised across both platforms.

* Looking at the page source in Chrome, the links are the same as I described above - they lack https: - but Chrome is treating them as remote links and therefore showing them correctly. This suggests the problem is how the other three are handling the links in the feed, but in other feeds I have the link does come with the http: prefixed. And, as I said, up until 10th July, it was working for this site. Something changed then. (The reader itself hasn't changed, but perhaps a library or something it uses has, and it's also used by Thunderbird/Firefox?)



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VinceH wrote:

* Looking at the page source in Chrome, the links are the same as I described above - they lack https: - but Chrome is treating them as remote links and therefore showing them correctly. This suggests the problem is how the other three are handling the links in the feed, but in other feeds I have the link does come with the http: prefixed. And, as I said, up until 10th July, it was working for this site. Something changed then. (The reader itself hasn't changed, but perhaps a library or something it uses has, and it's also used by Thunderbird/Firefox?)


Hi Vince

I decided to look at the feed in firefox, and it doesn't hyperlink, so I think the problem is more connected with Spark than it is with your choice of reader. It could well be that the one I used yesterday does treat the missing http as a hyperlink regardless, similar to chrome, whereas your reader, firefox et al, doesn't. I'm guessing that spark have made a change to their forum software as, certainly for the web, it's no longer necessary to include it, without taking into account that rss feeds would be affected.

(I also checked Opera as well out of curiosity, and that hyperlinks)



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Yes - I've looking now in my Windows browser (Palemoon, a Firefox derivative) and it's not working here. That rules out a component on the Linux machine that affects all three programs in which I'm seeing the problem there.

"I'm guessing that spark have made a change to their forum software"

That seems the most likely explanation.

"as, certainly for the web, it's no longer necessary to include it,"

That's only true to a certain extent. Within a website, for example, it isn't necessary if using local/relative links - but linking to an external site does require the protocol; doing so helps tell the browser the link isn't a local, relative one. But also, as you note:

"without taking into account that rss feeds would be affected."

Exactly. The RSS feed is (more often than not, I should imagine) read by a separate program - so specifying local, relative links (which might sound logical, because the feed is local to the site) is a bit flawed. :/

If I have time later, I might gander their site for examples of other forums using their software (so I can glance at them and see if it affects all sites using it) and/or a contact address to point out the problem.



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I've just sent an email to Sparklit.com about it.

(When I took a better look, I noticed their example forum is similarly affected, and I found another forum using/hosted by Activeboard.com that was also affected - that was a few hours ago and on a different computer, though, so I can't remember the address).



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I've now had a reply, and they say they'll get this sorted as quickly as they can.

Thumbs up to them - if nothing else, my email appears to have been read in the first instance by someone who understands the issue. (I spelt it out in layman's terms in case it was a typical front desk none-techy that read it).



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Aaaaand fixed. :)

Nice one Sparklit.com

I don't need a hosted forum - and if I did, I'm more than capable of a self install/management - but if I'm ever advising anyone on the subject, they'll get a recommendation for such a speedy response and action.

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Excellent news Vince.



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